Moen R8712P 12-Inch Bathroom Grab Bar, Peened

For my shower, these support bars do just what they say: grab & support bars. They also look so -o-o -o coo-o-o-ool. Being peened makes them a bit safer as you have a better grasp for your support. Im very happy that thats what I ordered.

Moens products are well built and easy to install.

This was purchased to be placed near the bathroom shower. It is safe, easy grab area to be used while dressing or undressing. It provides stability and security. It was easy to install on one vertical wall stud. The mounting flange for this unit made that possible and easy. With the varied positions of the holes, I was able to drill three 2-inch screws into one stud at both the upper and lower mounting piece. The screws toward the outside of the stud are angled slightly to allow them to really bite into the more central part of the stud. The cap piece covered the screw heads in spite of being angled. With 6 screws into the one stud, the grab bar is rock solid and no wobble. Nothing will cause this to fail ( I hope} Although this was added as a basic dressing aid, within 3 months a member had a problem with the onset of vertigo and it was definitely beneficial to have this in place. Another was then installed I in the toilet area to provide assistance going from a standing to a seated position and back to a standing position. I am considering another to be installed near the guest bedroom shower. The screws are heavy duty stainless and excellent. I did have some problem screwing them down as my screwing bit was a little worn. You really need to predrill the holes into the stud just a tad smaller than the diameter of the screws. The screws need to bite into the wood, so they do not pull out. If you have problems putting the screws into your pre-drilled holes in the stud, back-out the screw and apply dish detergent liquid on the threads or rub a bar of soap over the thread. It lubricates the threads. and may be enough to assist getting the screw into position. The screws are a larger diameter, and my best guess is a size 10. As I said these are heavy duty babes. Although I did cam-out while putting in the screw, the screw head was not damaged. Good screws! The price for the 12 inch grab bar was great, less than 14 bucks. Since both ends of this grab bar were placed in one vertical stud, I only used screws. This unit does not come with the heavy duty securemount that is used for support when the ends are placed into drywall. The drywall mount must be purchased separately. If you mount horizontally, I would suggest placing one end into a stud. The other could be supported with a securemount into the drywall. That saves you the price of one securemount which costs a little over $11,

I’ve used this before, but had to return this one. Good quality, and short for use in places where the person just needs a small grab bar to get them up off the toilet. It doesn’t have a textured surface, however, so I always mount them at an angle.

These were perfect for my shower and much needed. I highly recommend that older people install these in their shower

install could be easier for tight spots

Moen products are always good quality - this grab bar is sturdy, and doesnt look out of place in our home decor.

wE WERE SO PLEASED WITH THE PRODUCT. iT WAS STATED AS BEING USED, BUT i DONT THINK IT EVER WAS USED. tHERE WAS NOT A SCRTCH ON THE BRASS AT ALL. iT WAS LESS THAN HALF THE PRICE OF A NEW ONE.

I was trying to buy the Peened model (I think it should be called knurled). Dont know how I ended up clicking on the Polished Stainless one. At any rate this style looked good so I didnt try to exchange my purchase. The bars (I bought two) look nice installed, as if they were there all along. I opted to use a Moen Secure Mount Anchor on each end of each bar instead of trying to mount one end of each bar to a stud. I have a stud finder that was fairly well reviewed but I dont trust it enough to work through bathroom tile...a mistake in tile would be harder to fix than in dry wall. The down side of this purchase/installation was that I spent more on a diamond grit hole saw and adapter, and 4 Secure Mounts than I did for two grab bars. I was a little apprehensive about making a 1 1/4 inch hole, the size required for the Moen Secure Mounts, in tile because of my past experience with short life spans of small diamond tipped drills, but my hole saw lasted through the task. Be patient and keep the cutting end of the hole saw wet at all times. Use a spray bottle or sponge. An if at all possible use a pilot drill and/or some kind of guide. My saw/adapter combination didnt allow for using a pilot drill so the task of making a large hole in a tile was more difficult than it needed to be but Im patient. Once the holes were made the Secure Mounts installed easily. If you decide to install your own grab bars, dont just install them because they look good in that spot, or thats where the picture shows them. Give some thought to how you will use them...getting in and out, or getting up and down, or both. If youre using short bars the location will be more critical. Make sure you dont have to reach, or lean too far, or twist to access them. If you feel awkward you may not even use them. That I gave this product three stars doesnt mean I think its average...it does whats claimed for it. And it just sits there. And I feel confident in it. It holds my weight and the intended user of these bars is lighter than me. I give myself four stars for locating them properly :-)

Since I did not have studs to install these into, I use the Moen custom clips requiring drilling into the tile , through the cement board, and they are solid. These are purchased separately, but very happy with the purchase and very easy to install. You need a drill, the circular hole saw to sign for tile, a level, and a screwdriver.